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The Depression thing revisited

I mentioned the other day about a problem I was having difficuly with.  A
habit that was causing me some diffculties.
I tried all the little NLP techniques I knew, which wasn't many, but nothing
seemed to change.
I had given up (not really) on ever really changing it.  Someone suggested I
let the tyres down on the problem.  I never tried that before so I thought
what the hell.
In Japan they have public baths ("so what", you say).  The one near my house
has some kind of special water and also a sauna.  I decided to go and just
relax.  I like the public baths because the water is really hot.  I tend to
stay there for a couple fo hours, getting in and out of the baths, then
getting in and out of the sauna.  After a few washes and a few goes in the
sauna I thought it might be a good idea to practise my embedded commands.  I
have a friend who is convinced he has no choices about what he does.
Everything just happens to him. A poor victim of circumstance.  I decided to
use him as my mental subject.
I started off saying  " I know you think you have no  choices, but I am sure
if you wanted to  look,  around you might find some  choices.  I know that I
tend to   have more choices,   when I   look  for them.  Choices  are
something that we have a lot of.  I   havechoices  that I din't even know
about until i took the time to   look."
I know it is not very subtle but I am not very experienced.  It was actually
less subtle than I have written here so I am improving.  I was in the sauna
when I started.  I came out and dropped into the REALLY COLD water.  In the
water I immediately started saying the above (or something similar) to keep
my mind off the water.  At the same time I started thinking about my problem
behaviour.  It was as if the words were running over the behaviour. Like the
titles at the end of a movie.
I did this in a kind of trance, the change from hot sauna to cold water
makes it easy to go into that state.
What I began to realise was, the reason I was having difficulty improving
this behaviour was that I was not giving myself any choices.  Greg mentioned
about being ecological.  That seems to have been the problem.  I was trying
to force a change that was not what was needed.  I needed to be able to go
through a range of choices each time this pattern wanted to play out.  I
also needed the behaviour itself to be one of the choices. I now can choose
to do it or not or do something else.  It has been giving me headaches for
the last couple of days. A lot of choices now.  I wanted to let it go for a
couple of days to see if anything had really changed.  This stuff is just so
amazing to me.  Why don't they teach this in school instead of science?  I
never could get that stuff down.


If the behaviour is ecology 'clean' then the chart usually works-mind you
>so do most of the rest of the techniques you mentioned.
>IMO another look at ecology is probably justified. And probably by somebody
>else on your behalf.


Getting someone to look on my behalf is probably not possible at the moment
because I live in Tokyo and haven't been able to hook up with anyone
practisng NLP.  If you know someone I would love to hear about it. Hhehehe

Glenn