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Re: the trouble with trouble -Reply

In article <s25b4ee3.091@OAG.STATE.TX.US>, Wayne Talbot
<Wayne.Talbot@OAG.STATE.TX.US> writes
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>>>> "critter" <critter@peg.apc.org> 10/07/96 06:26pm >>>
>>snip...
>>"hey be careful when you have fun as it usually leads to trouble"
>>is that useful
>>is that accurate
>>or, just possibly, is that a pile of religious horseshit!?
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>Of course it is. ALL religious dogma is horseshit.

Wayne - you are too dogmatic.

>The statement comes out of the puritan beliefs that say
>"If we are having fun this must be sinful." and
>"It is the role of man to suffer for God's forgiveness."
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The really strange thing to me is that the puritanical beliefs to which
you refer come from a system that claims Jesus, the perfect man, died so
that we, fallen man, could be reunited with God, although we sin and can
not earn such a relationship. In short, that Jesus's death was a gift
that was not asked for, or earned. God's forgiveness only has to be
accepted!

And if you read the Gospels, Jesus' ministry starts with the miracle of
turning water into wine so that the carousing at a wedding in cana would
not stop early. This would have cut short the fun and embarassing the
host. If you read carefully, you will find that his mother plainly knew
of Jesus' ability in the miracle department, which could only have come
from previously performed miracles. So when the author says this is the
first of his miracles, the sense is of being most important. Jesus' most
important miracle was to help people have fun.

So much for having to suffer, or refrain from fun!

Ian Hobson

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