Re: the trouble with trouble -Reply -Reply
Of course I was being too dogmatic. My point was that
"ALL ABSOLUTE GENERALIZATIONS ARE WRONG!"
(including this one as well. 8-D )
I was trying to make a simple point. It is the DOGMA and
PURITANICAL BELIEFS that I was commenting on. Dogma and
beliefs often bear little relation to the core teaching to the founder
of the religion. This applies to all religions, not just Christianity.
So, how have these beliefs sprung from the language of the
bible? Possibly a focus for NLP analysis?
>>> Ian Hobson <Ian@choice.demon.co.uk> 10/12/96 05:55pm
>>>
In article <s25b4ee3.091@OAG.STATE.TX.US>, Wayne Talbot
<Wayne.Talbot@OAG.STATE.TX.US> writes
>
>
>>>> "critter" <critter@peg.apc.org> 10/07/96 06:26pm >>>
>>snip...
>>"hey be careful when you have fun as it usually leads to
trouble"
>>is that useful
>>is that accurate
>>or, just possibly, is that a pile of religious horseshit!?
>
>Of course it is. ALL religious dogma is horseshit.
Wayne - you are too dogmatic.
>The statement comes out of the puritan beliefs that say
>"If we are having fun this must be sinful." and
>"It is the role of man to suffer for God's forgiveness."
>
The really strange thing to me is that the puritanical beliefs to
which
you refer come from a system that claims Jesus, the perfect man,
died so
that we, fallen man, could be reunited with God, although we sin
and can
not earn such a relationship. In short, that Jesus's death was a
gift
that was not asked for, or earned. God's forgiveness only has to
be
accepted!
And if you read the Gospels, Jesus' ministry starts with the
miracle of
turning water into wine so that the carousing at a wedding in
cana would
not stop early. This would have cut short the fun and
embarassing the
host. If you read carefully, you will find that his mother plainly
knew
of Jesus' ability in the miracle department, which could only have
come
from previously performed miracles. So when the author says this
is the
first of his miracles, the sense is of being most important. Jesus'
most
important miracle was to help people have fun.
So much for having to suffer, or refrain from fun!
Ian Hobson
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qualified.
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