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Re: Genius

Perhaps I am confusing the terms, because I certainly can't clearly define
what
they mean, and I guess I don't mind that really.

Wilbur is undoubtedly very smart, and surely a genius, according probably
to my
definition, his, and most others I suspect, but we all have different
definitions and
that's fine.  I don't think that most people consider a genius someone who
sees
the world differently than the norm.  In the context of answering the
question of
"how to become a genius" I also don't think it's a particularly useful
answer either,
and that is mainly what I'm responding to.

In order to answer the question of how to become a genius, I would strongly
suggest
reading a posting my Carmine Baffa at http://www.instatek.com/nlp (I think
it's
one of the DHE related ones under the New Postings headings).  Further I
think
Wilbur is correct, that belief alone, over time is probably sufficient, but
I've known
many people who have the belief, who, don't in my opinion demonstrate
genius, in
fact many of those people have shut off their sensory channels so
completely they
can't learn anything new at all, well maybe new facts to astound you with,
but they
lack flexibility in almost all definable ways.

I think James, you provide a good metaphor in another posting about having
your
own Genie, but man what would happen if your Genie got mad at you, or you
it?
Yikes what a thought, if I were me, I'd be using every bit of skill I have
to begin to
refine and evolve my level of rapport with my Genie, everyday, especially
while I
sleep and dream...

So I don't think the words really matter...Wilbur is surely a genius, and
so can be
you too, but first I'd get very clear about what it means for you to be a
genius and
ask your Genie to take you there, but make sure to ask nicely and keep him
happy.

Be well,

Loren


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> From: James Lee Hamilton <felix@intrstar.net>
> To: nlptalk@ecuinfo.cowan.edu.au
> Subject: Re: Genius
> Date: Sunday, December 01, 1996 10:35 AM
>
> Are you confusing genius with the difference between being smart vs.
> being intelligent?
>
>
> One doesn't have to be intelligent to be smart. Using whatever level of
> intelligence you possess <bold>wisely</bold> is the action of a smart
> person. Intelligence is the ability to absorb information provided by the
> senses quickly, and organized in a fashion that allows one to recall the
> information. OTOH, I wonder is intelligence is associated basically with
> the realm of thought, and being smart is associated with the world of
> action?
>
>
> I suspect that most of us have had the feeling that we were special when
> we became aware, upon reading or hearing the thoughts associated with a
> particular genius, that we had thought these same thoughts before on our
> own, ergo, if we think the same thoughts these people were declared
> genius for...then we must also be geniuses. Not so. The difference is
> that they took action.
>
>
> Erickson was a genius. He took the information available about hypnosis
> and took it "where no man had gone before". Bandler and Grinder were
> thieves. If they were not, NLP would not have existed, and Erickson would
> have taken his genius to his grave with him. One of the flaws in my
> charactor may be that I am happy to be a thief, probably not a very good
> one, since I am considered to be very intelligent and not very
> smart...yet.
>
>
> At 07:17 PM 12/1/96 +0800, you wrote:
>
> >I think the genius which is referred by majority is the ability to use
> your
>
> >brain wisely. And that I ability I believe is mentioned as something
> that
>
> >is not easily done by a normal people. Maybe, as of now while still
>
> >studying, taking a few time to read and master them would be considered
> as
>
> >genius. In fact, the most important thing to be said as genius is to
> have
>
> >the ability to learn easily, develop pattern in a sudden.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >>
>
> >> Just for clarification.  By your definition of genius, are you
> saying
>
> >that
>
> >> most psychiatrists are geniuses?  Or is it the patients that are
> supposed
>
> >> to be geniuses?  Is Charles Manson a genius?  How about John Salvi?
>
> >> How about those people who go and kill doctors that work at abortion
>
> >> clinics?  Are they geniuses?
>
> >>
>
> >> I guess you can define it in anyway you want, and I guess the fact
> that
>
> >> your definition seems to be at odds with what most people think of
> as
>
> >> genius makes you smarter than the rest of us.  Man you're a
> genius!!!
>
> >> But I know you already believe that so my telling you doesn't make a
>
> >> difference because belief is all that really matter in being a
> genius,
>
> >even
>
> >> if you don't see things differently than everybody else, just as long
> as
>
> >> you believe it.  Am I getting this right or did I miss something?
>
> >>
>
> >> I'm going to go off and install some really cool delusions about the
> CIA
>
> >> chasing me, and all kinds of wacko scientific theories that no one
> else
>
> >> believes...Then I'll be the greatest genius the world has ever
> known,
>
> >yeah
>
> >> yeah
>
> >> that's it, and if I believe it and my imaginary friends believe it
> then
>
> >it
>
> >> will
>
> >> surely be true.
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >
>
>